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Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Why I switched back to Ubuntu

Ubuntu is sometimes thought of as the beginner's distro, something that more advanced users don't care about - they think if you're advanced, you need Slackware or something where you have to build it from scratch, rewrite or add parts to the kernel to make it more compatible to your system, write your own drivers, etc, but that just takes up time. Of all the distros I've tried, Ubuntu is the fastest, most reliable, and (most of the time) most compatible.

I'm serious. Ubuntu is the fastest I've tried. Fedora and openSUSE are the other distros I've actually spent quality time with, and Ubuntu is a huge leap ahead Fedora. openSUSE just took a long time to boot up and still has a splash screen, which is dying out.

Now, I'm serious : Ubuntu is the distro that crashes the least with me. 

Of course, the last reason isn't the best. Sometimes I can only find binaries in RPM format online, which I prefer over manual compiling because sometimes it can be such a pain to compile. But, let's face it: Ubuntu has a HUGE list of available packages for download and you can find most anything there. Fedora's pyrut visual package manager is slooow and takes a long time to browse. openSUSE's visual package manager is also slow, and doesn't provide for faster package name searching like Ubuntu, but it's more acceptable than pyrut.

Now, compatibility doesn't always have to be with software - Ubuntu has currently been the only distro to recognize my Nvidia graphics card and allow me to run desktop effects. openSUSE could barely recognize it, and trying to install the drivers broke my install. Fedora, let's not even go there. It told me I didn't have an advanced enough graphics card to play SuperTux!

Let's face it - Ubuntu has been a work of art in open source. I have yet to see a distro with such a punctual release schedule, team organization, and user resources.

Thanks to all the readers for making this my most-read post with over 11,496 views Tuesday 18 March 2008 and 22,843 Wednesday 19 March 2008, with about 1000 diggs and 70-something comments! So many visited the second day that the counter stopped working!


tallman said...

Totally agree!

Yaayaa said...

Ubuntu is nice.
But you could try mandriva as well.
I've been using it since several years and never has been disappointed. Urpmi is great.

I dont want to troll but just to give you an alternative.

2008.1 is out in a few days (I do automatic updates every day, so I won't see the difference with my updated 2008...)

kuriharu said...

Did the article actually say that Ubuntu crashes less than the other distros? Can this be right? I thought Linux never crashed. I thought it was only Windows that did this.

I've used Ubuntu, Fedora and Mandrake. They all lock up on me a lot more than XP. I hate XP; it's old, ugly and boring. But it just works.

Anonymous said...

O seu "html truque" ao lado eh ineficiente, eu estou usando um mac, mas meu navegador nao eh safari...parece que qualquer navegador baseado em Web Kit eh safari para vc...boa sorte da proxima vez...

Anonymous said...

dude, you can install RPMs on Ubuntu!
sudo apt-get install alien

sudo alien -k [filename.rpm]

you will now have a .deb package in whatever directory you were in!

Anonymous said...

Looks like you've never experienced the glory that is Gentoo =D

Try Sabayon Linux and you'll want to switch speedily.

Christopher said...

personally, I prefer PCLinuxOS- I've never had it crash, and it has a lot of great features- when I was new to linux, Ubuntu would not work with my computer well

Mika said...

"Ubuntu is the fastest, most reliable, and (most of the time) most compatible."

That's 100% bullshit. Ubuntu is the most reliable disto? Come'on. That must be worst joke I have heard in long time. And fastest? No way. Eg. latest Debian runs even on old Amiga computers which sure are not the fastest computers on planet anymore.

Mika said...

About that reliability part. Ubuntu is based on development version of Debian, Debian Unstable. Unstable is not even meant to be used by end users, it's development version. Ubuntu releases are nowhere near as reliable as eg. Debian releases are.

Anonymous said...

nobootu the best? Come on man, really?
I agree with Christopher, what is a crash?
Although, I think you should continue using it, please.

Anonymous said...

I second the recommendation for PCLinuxOS. Not only have I found it considerably more stable and fast than Ubuntu was when I used it for a couple months last summer, it installed without issue on two old Sony laptops that Ubuntu's LiveCD wouldn't even boot on.

Anonymous said...

Uh Debian.

Anonymous said...

before you try alien try installing the rpm with rpm... fool

Anonymous said...

Nar man ... Vista kills them call ... i think its been 4 seconds since my last BSoD :-P

Daengbo said...

Uhhh, Mika,

Ubuntu takes Debian unstable and then stabilizes it. That's why they go through alpha and beta, fixing bugs as they go along. To imply that they just download Sid and package it up into a CD release is just disingenuous. I suspect that you know better.

Ubuntu can be installed on old crap computers like 486s. You just can't use Gnome, but that's no different than Debian or any other distro. You just download the mini.iso, install a CLI system, and work from there.

Gutsy was a terrible release, buggy and unstable, showing Canonical's mad rush to get a bunch of new features in without the necessary time to clean them all up. It was probably really one long beta release for Hardy, in my opinion.

Daeng Bo

Paul Salvador said...

No offense but,... I guess it depends on your system??
Personally, PCLinuxOS is the fastest and most stable for my system.
And, imho, out of ~30 distros I've tested, Ubuntu was one of my least favorites and it was NOT fast on my system.

Anonymous said...

debian for me...i have been through several distros and i always come back to debian... just installed sidux a few days ago, very impressive way, super nice method to install debian unstable... so far it is rock solid, and super fast and responsive..

Danueil said...

I use Debian on my PC and my laptop duel boots Ubuntu and XP. I hate Windows, but we all know that sometimes, you just simply have to have it.

I agree that Ubuntu is fantastic, but I'm still a Debian loyalist, however; you are absolutely right that Ubuntu is far more compatible with hardware and easier. This even applies to things like USB thumb drives.

Excellent post.

Anonymous said...

I think Ubuntu has done one hell of a job at turning things around for GNU/Linux on the desktop. I also think Sun had a big part bringing the desktop into the 3D era even if not the integrating everything. I have been using GNU/Linux for over 10 years and always felt that Gnome was one step behind until recently. Ubuntu has managed to do an spectacular turn around job at integrating Gnome and putting out a usable integrated desktop distribution. Even though I still love KDE none of the distributions seem to have great desktop integration these days like Ubuntu. Linspire had some decent integration with 5.0. I think Ubuntu is doing allot of what Linspire should have done. Unfortunately Linspire's business side didn't work too well with the community and I wonder if maybe they hired the wrong people or didn't listen to the right people or a combination thereof.

Anonymous said...

As the commenter somewhat above me infered: Gentoo owns your ubuntu install.

David said...

Never had Ubuntu crash on me.
@mika: I highly doubt that Ubuntu is based on the unstable version of Debian. If I'm wrong, then please enlighten me.

Troy Mcferron said...

I am very proud of the work that has gone into Ubuntu, and the strong community that stands behind the software. I have been a project member or a year and a half now. My involvement has been one of community leadership as I moderate their web forums. Positive press for Ubuntu goes a long way in helping to open people's eyes to free software.

A lot of the comments on this blog have pointed out that "insert distro here" is better than Ubuntu. there are a lot of different distros of Linux. All of them have their benefits. A lot of them have severe drawbacks. Ubuntu offers a very nice desktop install that is very customizable. The default Gnome desktop is perfect for a lot of users.

Gentoo and others also can be made to exactly match this setup, but for tons of users, this initial desktop experience is enough to keep them using free software. This is a good thing not only for Ubuntu, but for every single person running a Linux operating system.

tim said...

so, not to change the subject but...you guys wouldnt happen to know anything about 'andLinux' by any chance...?

Anonymous said...

When was the last time your entire OS crashed? This sounds like fodder to me. The last time my entire OS crashed was when I was using Windows ME, and that required a full reinstall.

Apps crash all the time. Sure. But every OS I've run in the last 8 years has been stable enough to handle it. Linux is Linux is Linux. It all runs on the same fucking kernel. How your OS decides to use that kernel is another thing. But let me let you in on a little secret that some of us have known for years: *psst. It's called Debian*.

Your little newbie distro is just a polished up dumbed down version of Debian. Yep. Don't feel so special now do ya? Dude, Debian "Just Works" in case you were wondering. And in case you were wondering, the only big thing that separates Debian, and Debian-based distros such as Ubuntu from the rest is Apt. Let's not kid ourselves. I came to Debian because I was fed up with RPM.

Now I'm just gonna go ahead and say what everybody's thinking: Hey there Gentoo. Still compiling? PCLinuxOS - Welcome to Linux! Maybe in a couple years, you'll grow up and join the big boys. Slackware - Props, but dontcha wish you had a nice built in package manager? SuSE, REHL, etc - It'll give your boss a warm fuzzy, but if you have to pay for support, you shouldn't be using Linux. And finally, Ubuntu - Thanks for trying out Debian. To upgrade, please go here: http://debian.org. To switch back, go here: http://microsoft.com

Kevin said...

I've been using Ubuntu for nearly a year now, and love it. I tried a few other distros, but Ubuntu was by far my favorite. Being a relative linux noob, the Ubuntu forum is awesome! And with compiz, the UI is great, far better than Windows. I totally agree with this post.

rich2912 said...

Meh, just use Vista

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu is like the worse looking distro! Just get rid of that brown... I mean really...

Anonymous said...

When reading through the comments, it's little wonder Linux will never amount to anything on the desktop.

Anonymous said...

In my linux attempts at getting dual-monitor to work, Ubuntu did not work!
Ubuntu-not working
Fedora-not working
suse - not working

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu is fine for dual-monitor. Didn't take me long to get it working and I don't know too much about Linux...

Anonymous said...

No one ever changed their mind as a result of an argument.

You can all fight about who has the better distro as long as you want, but the fact remains that everything depends on personal choice. I use Ubuntu, but as long as I have the Linux kernel, GNOME and some way to install crap easily I don't care what distro it is.
For the average computer user, all they want is email and internet (and perhaps a nice wallpaper), they don't care if it Linux or Windows or Apple or BSD. Well maybe they would care if it were BSD.

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Ethan said...

I love Ubuntu because it is Debian with packages newer than 1998. Debian "stable release" is stable like windows 3.1 is stable. Debian is good but always behind..until Ubuntu.

Gentoo = 2004 Linux du jour

Gentoo Users = Dudes who have never had a girlfriend because they spend all day compiling.

I've used Fedora, Slackware, and a host of other distros but I always come back to something Debian based...its just better.

Also...to the dude who has tested 300+ distros...give me a break...using Toms Root Boot does not count as testing a distro.

Anonymous said...

what's wrong with rpm package ?

Anonymous said...

I also just came out of a big indecision loop trying to figure out what I was missing with other distros, desktops, etc... After trying PCLOS, Gentoo, Fedora, KDE3, KDE4, Xfce, Fluxbox, Enlightenment, and Ubuntu alternate, server installs (using VMs) I just reinstalled 7.10 Desktop on my main machine yesterday. In less than an hour, I have compiz on 2 22" monitors with openssl, build-essential, mysql and qt and its dependencies. Ready to open 10 gnome-terminals and get to work on the hard stuff.

Honestly dont like GNOME that much but I love how easy it is to get past installing linux and work with ubuntu.

My comment is here just in case someone over at Ubuntu reads these posts. You guys need to make a Desktop-developer ISO. Install build-essential by default and leave off every game, evolution, open office, and anything else like totem or evince and whatever else you install by default.

I have good hardware and enjoy watching my terminals burn up when I control-D, but basically the only programs I need are g-term, vi and all the compilers, debuggers and headers for X and the like. I think other people that use Ubuntu because they want to work, not install linux, need to push Ubuntu to make a great desktop install iso that leaves out all the stuff that developers dont need. If we want it, we can aptitude it.

Daddy said...

Count me among those who've already put in kind (and well-deserved} words for PCLinuxOS 2007. I ran Feisty for several months. Almost daily upgrade downloads became tiresome and time-consuming. ESPECIALLY after one (or more) of the upgrades in a collection of upgrades "broke" the download manager! I tried Gutsy and it wast more of the same. Among other candidates I test-drove: Sabayon - OK for tech-head types, but difficult to tame for Joe Average-experience computer user. gOS looked especially promising because many of it's applications operate on Google's dime so there's lots less weight to drag around. Mint I couldn't get to work right. Would NOT connect to the internet. DSL is TOO damn small, but it'll fit on a mini CD and unless there are flames leaping from your crashed & burned machine, you WILL be able to get back online in no time at all. Puppy's to 'cute' for an old fossil like me. I turned on a friend who's been driving UNIX & Linux for 20 years, and he tells me PLOS is the best, out-of-the-box Linux OS he's ever used.

Anonymous said...

Well, I tried out Ubuntu. Like it for the most part other than my letters kept skipping around all over the place when I typed. Finally had to ditch it for that reason. I don't have time to learn how to rebuild it to make it work. :-(

Anonymous said...

Another happy ubuntu user here (I didn't like openSUSE either :P)

Yfrwlf said...

Compatibility is a big annoyance, like you mentioned. Ubuntu needs to either help make a new Linux packaging standard, or improve the one that exists and use it. If RPM is it, then make the distro work with RPMs. There is no excuse for a lack of standards so that users don't have to compile everything which they can't be expected to do, and so that any developer(s) releasing software don't have to compile it for 129394 different distros. While the repos are great, they will never be able to include all the software everyone could ever need or want. There are lots of Linux games, for example, which aren't in the repos. Try telling a Ubuntu noob how to compile...and see how smoothly that goes. (both the telling, and the actual compiling, welcome to Linux dependency hell, and don't forget broken compilation script hell) As soon as Linux gets that solved, the only thing stopping it will be more software and a bit more standardization in other areas too so there can be more software.

Keith said...

Cool, I have to agree that Ubuntu is the indisputable king of Linux distro. I have tried several Linux distro, e.g. Ubuntu, openSUSE, Debian, Mandrake, etc. Ubuntu impressed me the most with its stability, openSUSE is still cool with the KDE graphics which Ubuntu is still behind, in my opinion. Debian is probably the only distro that is the king of stability and security.

gemidjy said...

Hello, while I can partially agree with your post, I must take two notes on it.

1. The problem with Ubuntu seen from a perspective of someone that actually CARES about free software is not in its speed or reliability or stability or consistance or support you might get from Canonical, it is in the attitude that the Ubuntu developers and the operating system itself has towards free software and the "restricted" ones. Ubuntu might lead the newb GNU/Linux users to total missunderstanding of the point of the free software culture and its philosophy. On the other hand it is good start for young guys that don't care for freedom but only like to have l33n4x 0n th3ir b0x3z.

2. The term "opensource" you mention is totally disqualified these days. I am reffering to the term OpenSource because the term Free Software is much more legitimate and accurate when we are talking about the freedom that Mr. Stallman gave us through the GNU project and the guys from Free software foundation with their supported projects. Let me give you a link that can say much better about this issue than I can:


The Unix Geek said...


I know the difference between free and opensource software, but I assumed if some people thought "free" then they would think all distros of Linux are free, which is not true.

Christophe said...


"I love Ubuntu because it is Debian with packages newer than 1998. Debian "stable release" is stable like windows 3.1 is stable. Debian is good but always behind..until Ubuntu."

What a nonsense! The latest stable version of Debian was released on April the 8th 2007! That's less than a year ago! And anyway it's meant to be a server OS, so running the latest and shiniest GUI is not the point here. If you want desktop goodness, just switch to Debian Unstable (which despite its name has never ever crashed on me, and anyway is the base Ubuntu is built on). I'm currently running it, with the latest GNOME 2.22 desktop environment already. Can you say the same about your Ubuntu desktop? So, who's always behind?

There's nothing wrong in liking Ubuntu. I'm sure it's a good distro, and it seems to fit a lot of people, mostly beginners but also more experienced users. But my experience supporting people who run Ubuntu has convinced me that it's just Debian Unstable with a shiny paint job. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's something wrong with dissing Debian when you're running Ubuntu, because you're in effect dissing 95% of what your OS actually is.

So please, next time you talk about Debian, please check what you're saying, otherwise you just sound like an ignorant dick.

That's advice that all the posters dissing other distros should heed. The days of RPM dependency hell are mostly over. Tools like Yast and Urpmi are to RPM-based distros what Apt is to Debian and Debian-based distros (whose only advantage is that they've had such a tool for a longer time). Nowadays, distros differentiate themselves more in terms of available software and design principles than in terms of stability and usefulness. It all depends on what you want to do with your computer: there's no one-size-fits-all.

I personally use Debian Unstable as my desktop because I like the philosophy and guiding principles of the Debian Project, the sheer size of the official repositories and the fact that I get mostly recent software in vanilla state that I can tinker to my own taste without losing stability. But if your own tastes or needs are different, it's likely that you will prefer to use another distro. It might be Fedora, it might be Ubuntu, it might be SUSE, Mandriva, Slackware, PCLinuxOS, Gentoo, or even a small unknown distro that hardly makes a blip on the Distrowatch rank pages. And that's all right, because we're all different people with different needs, and the multitude of available distros is just a reflection of this. So stop insulting others just because they don't use your favourite distro. And don't diss other distros based on issues that might have been true 5 years ago but are not anymore. It's not constructive, and it only makes you look like bickering morons.

matthew said...

There are lots of great Linux distributions out there. My preference is the same as yours, Ubuntu, for a lot of the same reasons. I also think the Ubuntu community is one of the nicest, most enjoyable and welcoming groups of people out there. That, for me, covers any shortcomings that exist.

Charles said...

I have tried a number of other distros, including gentoo, the bsd's, suse, mandriva, redhat, slackware, etc, and always ended up back with debian. So it seems very natural to use Ubuntu for a couple of workstation computers alongside xp. The most exciting thing about Ubuntu, and any good desktop linux, is that everyday more software is available to facilitate working in a mixed windows/linux environment.

Daengbo said...

Nevada Mojo Rising said...

"Well, I tried out Ubuntu. Like it for the most part other than my letters kept skipping around all over the place when I typed. Finally had to ditch it for that reason. I don't have time to learn how to rebuild it to make it work. :-("

It sounds like my problem with touching the touchpad on my laptop. There is a program which will disable the touchpad while you are typing. I don't remember the name. maybe someone else can remember.

Hanief said...

I like Ubuntu as well. Last time I was with Debian.

I've made a lot of videos for all Ubuntu users

Anonymous said...

There is something to be said fo an OS that just works. I had issues with other distros and have been happy with Ubuntu for a couple of years now. I switched from Gentoo. At some point in your life, you don't want to compile everything that comes down to you.

Mark said...

I've been using Ubuntu on/off for over 2 years now (started with 5.10 I think!) and started using it as my main OS for the last year or so.
Whilst I have tried some other distro's I've never felt the need to change as Ubuntu as just worked for me! I quite enjoy tinkering with things and don't mind hunting around on forums and google to sort out a problem if one arises and whilst I think I'm now just starting to move out of the Linux n00b area and into the more experienced user area. One thing I like is that the distro is what you make of it. I can install a full desktop OS or a minimal base system, I have a few LAMP setups at home for various task's that don't need a GUI (managed via SSH or web interfaces) and I'm in the process of trying to build a PXE server (with the help of some guides!) all the while learning skills and methods that can be used on other Linux distro's!

Daengbo said...

dnix said...

"Well Daengbo, based on your silly little logo I am sure your opinion is perfectly fair minded and reasonable.

Move to China if you dont like free speech you wuss."

Yes, I use Ubuntu, and yes, I host a blog ( http://ibeentoubuntu.com ) about if. If you read that blog, though, you will see several places where I was highly critical of Ubuntu, especially Gutsy. I think that's "fair minded and reasonable" enough to know that when a post calls people "assclownz," "retards," "dorks," and "losers" that the post isn't intelligent conversation. It's not a matter of free speech; It's called moderation of the thread.

Keep trolling, though.

Jack Wang said...

LOL WTF?????????

Anonymous said...

Why I switched back to Sabayon

I tried Ubuntu several months ago. I like to tinker around and compile my own customer kernels. I found some minimal documentation from Ubuntu about compiling kernels, but it involved using strange tools with names like "fake_root" which didn't seem to follow a straightforward way of doing things similar to the make menuconfig; make; make modules_install; ... way I was used to building the kernel.

Sabayon has a tool from Gentoo called genkernel. It works great. It is very straightforward. One command to compile the kernel and modules. The genkernel flags are very straightforward, too. On the other hand, the Ubuntu methods for kernel compiling seem very convoluted and not very well documented.

But the one thing I did find in Ubuntu user forums that really pissed me off was that Ubuntu users would make posts saying things like, "Why would you ever want to compile your own kernel? Ubuntu knows what you want."

If I wanted an OS where I was told by its users I never wanted to tinker around and that the OS company knows exactly what I want, then I would just go back to Windows.

Anonymous said...

you said you like using .rpm files.

however i find that .deb files are much more common.

Anonymous said...

I like Linux Mint. ubuntu with everything you need.

Anonymous said...

That's a crock. :) If your graphics card works under Ubuntu it can work on another distro. You just have to find the proper way of installing.

However, Ubuntu is clearly proactively setup better.

Anonymous said...

this article is total bullshit
...ubuntu fastest ? ..u must be joking!
..ubuntu most reliable ?? ...I wouldn't even consider it for a server.
...ubuntu most compatible?? ...I've just bought a brand new notebook, which I have specifically chosen so that all its hardware is supposrted by open source drivers ...tried Ubuntu livecd on it ...it didn't even boot!! ...then I tried Fedora ...and everything (literally everything) worked out of the box!!
I've tried ubuntu several times but I was always disappointed ...personally I prefer Fedora, always bellding edge, stable and FREE (as in freedom) ...That's doesn't mean Ubuntu is bad and my congratulations for choosing GNU/Linux ...moral of the story: these is no "better" distro ...use what u like and shut the fuck up! :)

Khawar said...

Here is the low down on the distros as far as I know.
I must have tried over 20 - 30 distros over more than a decade.
New users coming from windows :
Use PC Linux. Except for a small keyboard bug everything else is working perfectly for this case.
Unix Geeks : Go for debian, or ubuntu or whatever your "technical" preference is. You have the time and know how to tinker.
Learning Linux system admin : Fedora.
Corporate Linux Admin : start RHEL and get the company to pay for the courses. Then once RHEL is learned, move on to fedora then whatever you read about. You shall be what your read.
Really technical freak : Gentoo.
Needs a lot of time.
Network/Hardware admin : Start with Knoppix and collect all the network admin tools you can.
Embargoed corporate : Go for Suse or Mandriva. Mandriva is French. Suse was german (I think) Not sure where it is now. US or Germany.
A person starting to learn computers : PC Linux.
For those who need to be very mobile : Use a web based operating system which provides all of your apps on the net. Not on a computer.
Then all you shall need is a browser and will not have to worry about all of these discussions of OSes.
Personally I am planning to try to paste the PC Linux and Ubuntu Synaptics onto Opensuse (best hardware) which shall be an ideal solution to the large harddisks and DSLs available to users these days.
Wish me luck.

Anonymous said...

Just installed Elisa on my (previously headless, now media center) Ubuntu 7.10 home LAMP server.
Run awesome on a PIII 800MHz with 512MB RAM.

I was playing around with my setup and thought: "This runs so well, I could use this as my everyday PC!"

Go Elisa! Best looking Linux Media Center Project!


Anonymous said...

Debian is like ubuntu (since ubuntu is built off it) but it doesn't hold your had when you don't want it to.

Anonymous said...

linux crashing?
unless you're running some experimental drivers for some odd-ball hardware, then linux shouldn't be crashing.
Fairly modern chipset here, I have no idea the last time my workstation crashed.
Dell laptop at home running gentoo, likewise, not sure how long it's been since it's crashed. I've worn out the paint on the keys at home, so yes, it does get use.

CFA Level 1 said...

Power to you my friend. Power to you.

Anonymous said...

Hi! Roger from ubuntulinuxhelp.com here... I enjoyed your article, especially the nVidia card part ;) I myself switched back to Linux after being away for a while. I was "re-hooked" when I realized there was a whole world of goodies I was missing. :)

CHVNX said...

I've yet to try any Linux distro.

I still use WinXP and it works fine for me. I also run an ancient spare machine of mine of Win98 and honest to ghawd it works just fine for what I'm doing with it. Of course, it could run a more up-to-date OS but I feel no need to change OS' on that machine just yet.

However, I do have another spare junk box that I could put a Linux distro on. An associate of mine recently gave a weekend-long course on Ubuntu and I missed it. I think I'll have to get in contact with him and get myself started on the path to Open Source operating systems. Your post has given me inspiration.


Anonymous said...

Ubuntu rocks. I don't know why Debian fans say that the raw version is better. Here's a live comparison showing the advantages of Ubuntu over all other distros:Ubuntu - Other Distro Comparison

BRad said...

Here's another vote for Ubuntu. Been running it perfectly stable and very tweaked on a spankin new laptop for the last three months. Love the community, love the software, love the OS.

Anonymous said...

I tried Ubuntu and ran into some problems, then I tried PCLinuxOS. You should try it too. It is fast and it just works - Great Distro.

Anonymous said...

I think you will find that PCLinux is just as fast at boot as Ubuntu and after that it is faster. I use it on my laptop because it works smoother than Ubuntu. PCLinux is more user friendly with regard to WIFI.

Anonymous said...

niiice that you use linux. its all good because its linux. unlock the power of COMMUNITEEEEe (yea igot that from that youtube mac vs pc vs linux ad)

Terry said...

I have to say that Ubuntu is a great distro. I've been with Fedora since FC1, also tried other desktop aimed distros like Debian, SUSE, Mandriva. Finally I decided to stay on Ubuntu until something better appears. For enterprise, I just use RHEL/SLES/CENTOS, no satisfactory. So now I am deploying all enterprise application like portal/application server/database on Ubuntu, to my surprise, most of them are running well. But tricks needed sometime.

In addtion, Debian is great as well.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree. I like to install and test other distros from time to time, and it just seems like Ubuntu is a low maintenance solution.
I have our whole production facility on Ubuntu linux...

iridesce said...

Nice article

I put Ubuntu on any computer someone asks me to work on. Some are dual boots, some are pure.

My machines are Mepis however. Gnome is too fluffy for my tastes, KDE hits home. Warren's ongoing attention to stability and functionality of the debian - Ubuntu - debian kernels makes my linux experience just right.

Anonymous said...

Oh C'mon guys! Seriously, as linux users we need to stop fighting about "x distro is better then y distro"

The best thing about Linux is choice.

If you like Ubuntu, go ahead and use it! If you're a Fedora man, use it! If you like Debian, use it! It really doesn't matter what distribution you use (except Linspire). All that matters is we're using linux.

Valect said...

Glad to see some people have had luck with Ubuntu. It's a good distro, no doubt, but recently I've had horrible luck with it. Not to spam my site (really, it's hosted at home, i can't support the traffic potential), but to see my recent linux situation, read http://evildomain.org/?p=206
I did get Kubuntu running, only to have all sorts of fun issues with kernels and incorrectly configured displays. And I still hate apt.

I stand by Ubuntu being for the beginners, but to each his own.

Prakash said...

Debian GNU/Linux!the best ever I have seen!
next comes archlinux which is based on rolling release model.archlinux+kdemod is fast!

Ubuntu-yes,Ubuntu is a gr8 work!their community work hard to make this distro as userfriendly as possible.new drivers,new packages,newest Gnome,all are made for Ubuntu!even Debian benefits from Ubuntu community.
Debian got Utnunbu project which is based on source/updates provided by ubuntu developers :)
Debian FTW!

Alex Kibler said...

Yeah, I use Ubuntu as well. I've been trying others, and Ubuntu definitely so far is my favorite. I'm VBoxing LinuxMint now, though. (Yes, I realize it's based off of Ubuntu, but what isn't anymore?) I'll let you know if it's worth it.

Anonymous said...

I left Fedora to move to ubuntu 8 months ago as I was getting fed up with repository errors and updates breaking the system.

Ubuntu seemed great and rock solid, that was until I bought my new pc and decided to put the 64bit version of Ubuntu on.

Now x86_64 Ubuntu is the most unstable operating system I have ever had to suffer.

Anonymous said...

Personally I used Ubuntu for about a year (on and off over two), I had problem after problem, wifi was spotty and break from patch to patch (despite a intel card), sound would work in one release and break in the next to name a few of my problems. I have had Ubuntu installations that crash and crash, and I've had extremely stable Ubuntu installations. I have also on my non-main computer had perfect Ubuntu installation.

Recently I've switched my main to Slackware and I love it. More power, more control and I've found it much more stable and much easier to fix the few small bugs I have had.

What I'm trying to say is that there is no perfect linux installation depending on your needs and wants, your hardware, your knowledge some distros are better or worse but Ubuntu despite what all the reviews are raving here is not the end all be all of distros, it is on the other hand a great distro to recommend to Beginners.

Anonymous said...

Nobody mentioned Arch GNU/Linux. It's a distribution that combines the best from GNU/Linux and BSD (init and ports like systems) worlds resulting in one of the best (the best) distributions today. Besides that it has many inovative and outstanding features, majestic package managment... you'll see tomorrow when you install it.


Anonymous said...

When things have to be done quickly Ubuntu is the best.
I have Fedora and Debian in my laptop.
Fedora is for doing things quickly and Debian for research :)

Anonymous said...

Wow! A linux site that actually says linux crashes. I thought that was impossible!! lol

I just installed fedora 8 and noticed the yum update takes forever. I have ubuntu also and it seems to update alot faster. My biggest gripe with linux is the hardware support (which is always getting better) and the game support. And NO i can never get wine to work right with the games i want to play.

I also agree the ubuntu default color scheme needs a bit of work :)

sendmail said...

I've been using Ubuntu at work on a laptop for 3 years. I've had to conform to a pure Micro$oft environment. Fortunately because I built most everything they let me use it. During that time I have also tried Suse and Redhat. No go. I always was lacking something such as a decent video driver or I had to muck around with thumb drives etc. Ubuntu just works. And when I need software I don't have to think about dependencies. Just my .02 .

Anonymous said...

You guys and your comments have shown me the light. It appears that Linux has just as many problems as any other Operating system. Guess I'll just stick to windows and all the Bulls**t that comes with it because Linux doesn't appear to be any better. It's just decentralized into many, many smaller departments.

Khawar Nehal said...

I have used more than 20 distros and thousands of student users have asked what to use. The year is 2010. Based on my last 16 years of use experience. I would recommend PCLinuxOS for a new user for many reasons.
For windows apps install vbox and install XP inside Vbox with integration extensions.
This shall give you the best of both worlds.
Officially you need to pay for your XP licence.
To avoid viruses and malware make a copy of you xp vm.